first not official map ( v.17 )

fire64 · **Joined:** Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:32 pm **Posts:** 11

I present to you is the first not official map for the vampires.

I designed and wrote a compiler maps to create maps with zero.

this map used only DEV textures

mal32 · **Joined:** Tue Dec 25, 2007 5:27 pm **Posts:** 69

so you were able to compile a map to run in bloodlines? Thats pretty cool. How did you do it? I thought that bloodlines only accepted version 17 or (16)? Bsps...

CodenameV · **Joined:** Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:32 pm **Posts:** 49

mal32 wrote:

so you were able to compile a map to run in bloodlines? Thats pretty cool. How did you do it? I thought that bloodlines only accepted version 17 or (16)? Bsps...

The map is unlit. The bsp format is partially documented here:
http://www.geocities.com/cofrdrbob/bspformat.html

The missing pieces of the structure refer to the nightime lightmapping system create by Troika. The format has not been reverse engineered to the best of my knowledge.

mal32 · **Joined:** Tue Dec 25, 2007 5:27 pm **Posts:** 69

Yeah, I do remember you saying something about that before. However I'm still unsure why Troika added this night-time lightmapping system. Is there some kind of visual improvement that was found with this? Surely when they licensed the engine the default light mapping system was still there and intact. Who knows, maybe it wasn't. After all, its hard to say what was present and what was missing with that build of the engine.

fire64 · **Joined:** Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:32 pm **Posts:** 11

CodenameV, Where did you hear this?

This applies to LUMP_LIGHTING or LUMP_FACES?

I believe that LUMP_LIGHTING has the same format as in goldsrc

I think that MAXLIGHTMAPS was increased to 8

problems associated with shift light lightmaps few bytes

I believe that the byte unknown [32] from dface_t is actually colorRGBExp32 m_AvgLightColor [MAXLIGHTMAPS];

please testing my new compiled map

sorry for my english

CodenameV · **Joined:** Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:32 pm **Posts:** 49

fire64 wrote:

CodenameV, Where did you hear this?...

From the Troika developer video interviews that are still floating around. These videos state what Troika added to and/or changed the Valve source code.

fire64 wrote:

think that MAXLIGHTMAPS was increased to 8
I believe that the byte unknown [32] from dface_t is actually colorRGBExp32 m_AvgLightColor [MAXLIGHTMAPS];

I agree.

fire64 · **Joined:** Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:32 pm **Posts:** 11

valve source engine uses 4 lightstyle fo face

troyka source engine uses 8 lightstyle fo face

4 lightstyle for day + 4 for night = 8 ( nightime lightmapping system )

sorry from my bad english

Daedalus · **Posted:** Sat Jul 11, 2009 1:54 am

Very nice work!

Quite interesting to see this, any chance you would upload your compiler for others to try out?
Lighting doesn't calculate properly I see, but that's not a big issue.

With the current Revival Installer decompiling all the textures and extracting sounds and what not, this could actually work to let people mod the original game directly from Hammer.

fire64 · **Joined:** Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:32 pm **Posts:** 11

Daedalus, I upload the compiler, but later.

I want to create a complete package sdk tools

bsp compiler + mdl compiler + Model Viewer + Face Poser + Hammer with support ttz

bsp compiler - 70% completed
mdl compiler + Model Viewer + Face Poser - 25% completed

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